Thanks to all that have visted.
I seem to have lost interest, and life has gotten complicated for me.
So, I will not be adding any more here.
Hopefully you've found it useful, and perhaps gained some insights.
Or maybe you disagree with what I've posted.
Free advice is funny that way.
I'll leave this stuff here, in case someone else comes along from a search engine, and hopefully can make some sense out of it.
Peace and Good Winds.
Monday, October 13, 2008
Saturday, August 23, 2008
CFU v2.3
Well.. the weather at the end of last week kinda sucked, so I spent a little time sewing.

I made another sail, moved the spreaders down a little, and shortened the tail 1 inch because it was getting caught on the ground sometimes. I've changed the standoffs to be the same length instead of the outer being 1/2 longer to see what that does.
I've also added graphics trying out the ideas I talked about in the panels thread last month.
Hopefully, tomorrow will have some decent wind.

I made another sail, moved the spreaders down a little, and shortened the tail 1 inch because it was getting caught on the ground sometimes. I've changed the standoffs to be the same length instead of the outer being 1/2 longer to see what that does.
I've also added graphics trying out the ideas I talked about in the panels thread last month.
Hopefully, tomorrow will have some decent wind.
Friday, August 15, 2008
CFU
Got out for about an hour after work.
Winds were light and unreliable, but I got a couple runs in.
Crap editing again. Maybe one of these days, I'll learn the eye candy.
Until then, you'll have to suffer with me.
I'm calling this kite CFU, since math kite seems to confuse folks, and math kite is more of general set of rules.
Anyway, I've been having fun with this one. Still need to lower the spreader and play with the standoffs a bit more, but I like it so far.
Winds were light and unreliable, but I got a couple runs in.
Crap editing again. Maybe one of these days, I'll learn the eye candy.
Until then, you'll have to suffer with me.
I'm calling this kite CFU, since math kite seems to confuse folks, and math kite is more of general set of rules.
Anyway, I've been having fun with this one. Still need to lower the spreader and play with the standoffs a bit more, but I like it so far.
Sorry for the scarce postings.
Weather has been spotty, and I haven't gotten alot of time to fly.
I've made it just a bit deeper, and I've been playing with the standoffs.
Right now, I have a longer outer, which I like, but I need to try even ones as well, since longer outer seems to have made waps snag prone. Or.. maybe it's just me.
Anyway, I'm going to have to make a new sail. That lower spreader is just too high now, making it get stuck in turtle too easily. I think it needs to come down 1/2".
The deeper sail has also toned down the tail lifting in cyniques making them simpler. I'm not sure I can get it to rise as much as I did with the winglets though.
I guess I'll just have to live in the middle if I want to have all the tricks at hand.
Anyway, I will say that I think this one is close to being very good.
Corners are snappy, and figures are quite decent as well, with the only criticism I think being that it will go back into turtle/snap lazy too quick, making 2 points landings and stabs very narrow window of opportunities.
I can live with that since the rest of the tricks come so easily on this one.
I'll try to get some video next time I get out to fly it.
I've made it just a bit deeper, and I've been playing with the standoffs.
Right now, I have a longer outer, which I like, but I need to try even ones as well, since longer outer seems to have made waps snag prone. Or.. maybe it's just me.
Anyway, I'm going to have to make a new sail. That lower spreader is just too high now, making it get stuck in turtle too easily. I think it needs to come down 1/2".
The deeper sail has also toned down the tail lifting in cyniques making them simpler. I'm not sure I can get it to rise as much as I did with the winglets though.
I guess I'll just have to live in the middle if I want to have all the tricks at hand.
Anyway, I will say that I think this one is close to being very good.
Corners are snappy, and figures are quite decent as well, with the only criticism I think being that it will go back into turtle/snap lazy too quick, making 2 points landings and stabs very narrow window of opportunities.
I can live with that since the rest of the tricks come so easily on this one.
I'll try to get some video next time I get out to fly it.
Friday, August 8, 2008
Hmm.. well that last change..
So.. that last build was educational.
Here's what I've learned:
1) The trick to getting good taz is thin tips and stable belly floats. If the tips have too much area, there's too much to pull through the air, and the rotation doesn't complete. Also, when you second pull in the taz, if there's too much lift on the wing, you just get pop-ups instead of spin.
2) There's a fine line between getting lifters and getting out. Apparently I've crossed that line. I can get incredible lifters on that last one, but it often does not want to come out of turtle. I think I've gone too far up. Even in cyniques, the second pop is starting to lift the tail into a 2 pop rollup rather than just reverse the spin. It's an odd feeling.
So the tip shape is a success, but the turtle stuff is too lifty. I'm trying a bit shorter spreaders to see if that will compensate, but I suspect I'm just going to have to lower the spreaders about 1/2".
I should know after this weekend.
Here's what I've learned:
1) The trick to getting good taz is thin tips and stable belly floats. If the tips have too much area, there's too much to pull through the air, and the rotation doesn't complete. Also, when you second pull in the taz, if there's too much lift on the wing, you just get pop-ups instead of spin.
2) There's a fine line between getting lifters and getting out. Apparently I've crossed that line. I can get incredible lifters on that last one, but it often does not want to come out of turtle. I think I've gone too far up. Even in cyniques, the second pop is starting to lift the tail into a 2 pop rollup rather than just reverse the spin. It's an odd feeling.
So the tip shape is a success, but the turtle stuff is too lifty. I'm trying a bit shorter spreaders to see if that will compensate, but I suspect I'm just going to have to lower the spreaders about 1/2".
I should know after this weekend.
Monday, August 4, 2008
1/3 sail with asym TE
Got the new sail built.

Here's a front shot. You might notice that the lower spreader is higher ~14 inches to the spine. Also, the upper spreader is 1/2 lower, which I'm hoping will help spin crazy copters, and get me back to the rising cyniques. It was already giving quite nice lifters, but since I was thinning the tips, and a little in the tail, I thought I'd try to give it a bit more area below the spreaders to help with those.
I think the amount of area on the outer sail panel is deceptive with deeper kites.

Here's another angle.
The weather is supposed to clear tomorrow, and be good for a bit, so hopefully I'll get some good test time on it.

Here's a front shot. You might notice that the lower spreader is higher ~14 inches to the spine. Also, the upper spreader is 1/2 lower, which I'm hoping will help spin crazy copters, and get me back to the rising cyniques. It was already giving quite nice lifters, but since I was thinning the tips, and a little in the tail, I thought I'd try to give it a bit more area below the spreaders to help with those.
I think the amount of area on the outer sail panel is deceptive with deeper kites.

Here's another angle.
The weather is supposed to clear tomorrow, and be good for a bit, so hopefully I'll get some good test time on it.
Saturday, August 2, 2008
New Camera Came
Got the new camera last night. It's a JVC everio hard drive camera.
So far, I like it alot.
Got out for a little bit this morning, and recorded about 10 min's of tricks on the kite I built for kiteforge sloppily snipped/globbed together into 3ish mins.
If your curios about how it flies, you can see the vid here
Worts were not removed, since I think that's as important to see as anything else.
So far, I like it alot.
Got out for a little bit this morning, and recorded about 10 min's of tricks on the kite I built for kiteforge sloppily snipped/globbed together into 3ish mins.
If your curios about how it flies, you can see the vid here
Worts were not removed, since I think that's as important to see as anything else.
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